jsnake:

One2gofst:

jsnake:

I am so glad I get that mag for free. It is more like a dream magazine. Why the hell would you drop $10,000 on a watch? Just because you can? How f'ing stupid. I will bet you my G Shock keeps the same time your overpriced time piece to compensate for low testosterone does. Might not look as pretty though.

To the person who spends $10k on a watch, that expenditure probably accounts for less of their earnings, as a percentage, than that G-shock. Pride of ownership. If all anyone cared about was bare funtionality, almost everything anyone owns would be considered excessive. There are intangibles to be taken into account as well. Then again, someone with a $10k watch may think it quite crazy to spend $25 on a cigar. Heck, some folks might say that someone making $30k a year is crazy to spend ANY money on cigars.What I have found is that, generally, people who have a high net worth also understand the value of things, not just what something costs. I'd not be so quick to call someone stupid or having low testosterone based on what they choose to spend their discretionary disposable income.

Easy there. It was a joking statement about the excesses of a magazine that caters to the elite. I don't care how much your watch costs lol. I think it is nuts that this magazine has ads and promotes high dollar items that probably 10% of the people out there can afford. I am just pulling that stat out my butt. I do kind of understand the ads because that is how they make their money. They also seem to want to maintain an elite status therefor promoting crazy expensive things. If I came into some money you know I might spend up to $1,000 on a nice watch but $10,000-$30,000 is absolutely nuts IMO.

Nowhere in your post did it come across to me that you were joking. It certainly did come across, again to me, that you care how much someone else spends their money. I apologize for not reading your post correctly.

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jeff_connors:

Bought myself a European cigar journal mag today, way better than CA, its actually about....cigars!!!

There are a couple that do that. CA kinda sucks. It's like vogue for men...

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FAV. Smokes are in my Profile....Reviews

I get the magazine free and i can honestly say that when renewal comes i wont be renewing ..... as far as the contents there are some great articles every once in a while, and it sure is nice to dream isnt it . I have three watches ...... a Kenneth Cole that my wife bought for me for x-mas the years we started dating, a timex ironman and i have a knockoff Breitling that i got in nassau for 50.00 and it looks 100% real and on the wrist you cant tell its a fake. Money doesnt make the man ..... the Man makes the money and rich or poor iam sure we all value some of our possesions more than others.

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Iam a standing member of PETA ...... People Eating Tasty Animals

$10k watches maintain value, or sometimes appreciate. G-shocks, well, nuff said. I will have a nice Breitling, Rolex, or Tag someday but for now, the Fossil and Michael Kors are good nuff for me.

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Legionnaire Apparel, serious clothing!

ANYWAY - I am sorry for contributing to derailing the thread, and really didn't mean any sort of braggadocio by mentioning my watch collection... I was just trying to make a point.

As far as my opinion on being classified as an aficionado, I believe this: Once cigars become more than a casual thing with friends; once you start learning about their origins and the different countries your smokes come from; once you start developing your palate to recognize flavors and body.... Not once you become an EXPERT in these areas, but once you begin APPRECIATING these things - THEN I would call you an aficionado, as I call myself (and I am no expert by far).

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For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
2 Timothy 4:3

One2gofst:

jsnake:

One2gofst:

jsnake:

I am so glad I get that mag for free. It is more like a dream magazine. Why the hell would you drop $10,000 on a watch? Just because you can? How f'ing stupid. I will bet you my G Shock keeps the same time your overpriced time piece to compensate for low testosterone does. Might not look as pretty though.

To the person who spends $10k on a watch, that expenditure probably accounts for less of their earnings, as a percentage, than that G-shock. Pride of ownership. If all anyone cared about was bare funtionality, almost everything anyone owns would be considered excessive. There are intangibles to be taken into account as well. Then again, someone with a $10k watch may think it quite crazy to spend $25 on a cigar. Heck, some folks might say that someone making $30k a year is crazy to spend ANY money on cigars.What I have found is that, generally, people who have a high net worth also understand the value of things, not just what something costs. I'd not be so quick to call someone stupid or having low testosterone based on what they choose to spend their discretionary disposable income.

Easy there. It was a joking statement about the excesses of a magazine that caters to the elite. I don't care how much your watch costs lol. I think it is nuts that this magazine has ads and promotes high dollar items that probably 10% of the people out there can afford. I am just pulling that stat out my butt. I do kind of understand the ads because that is how they make their money. They also seem to want to maintain an elite status therefor promoting crazy expensive things. If I came into some money you know I might spend up to $1,000 on a nice watch but $10,000-$30,000 is absolutely nuts IMO.

Nowhere in your post did it come across to me that you were joking. It certainly did come across, again to me, that you care how much someone else spends their money. I apologize for not reading your post correctly.

I am not offended by anyone's reply. I just wanted you guys to know I was joking around. I get the mag for free so I can't really *** too much. Rich people and their toys do not bother me or make me lose sleep. I just didn't want anyone to be offended because I was joking around. Hard to judge the tone of ones written words on a forum so I understand what you are saying. I personally would never buy half the stuff they have in the mag because I think I am very basic and down to earth and coming from where I have been in life it just isn't my style. Nothing against it but its just not for me. I would really like them to cater to all cigar lovers and throw on a cheap luxury watch or electronic item and work their way to the extremely expensive. Then I would feel a little better like they were reaching out to all of their readers.

Aficionado?? Well, I do not really know about that at all. I love cigars and I do give advice and help people out. I am no expert and have much to learn and try.

Hays:

ANYWAY - I am sorry for contributing to derailing the thread, and really didn't mean any sort of braggadocio by mentioning my watch collection... I was just trying to make a point.

As far as my opinion on being classified as an aficionado, I believe this: Once cigars become more than a casual thing with friends; once you start learning about their origins and the different countries your smokes come from; once you start developing your palate to recognize flavors and body.... Not once you become an EXPERT in these areas, but once you begin APPRECIATING these things - THEN I would call you an aficionado, as I call myself (and I am no expert by far).

Well said Hays ...I like that definition and agree with it ...

gmill880:

Hays:

ANYWAY - I am sorry for contributing to derailing the thread, and really didn't mean any sort of braggadocio by mentioning my watch collection... I was just trying to make a point.

As far as my opinion on being classified as an aficionado, I believe this: Once cigars become more than a casual thing with friends; once you start learning about their origins and the different countries your smokes come from; once you start developing your palate to recognize flavors and body.... Not once you become an EXPERT in these areas, but once you begin APPRECIATING these things - THEN I would call you an aficionado, as I call myself (and I am no expert by far).

Well said Hays ...I like that definition and agree with it ...

Well then I guess I would classify myself more of an avid enthusiast than aficionado.

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Charlie Chaplin once entered a Charlie Chaplin look alike contest and came in third.

I like smbrink's term "enthusiast" a lot better than aficionado. I enjoy cigars, talking and learning about them and trading with friends. I know I have a lot to learn and that is part of the enjoyment. For some reason the term "aficiodado" always stuck me as snobbish.

As a retired cop, I have a lot of class, it's low, but I have class!

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“A good cigar is like a beautiful chick with a great body who also knows the American League box scores.” – M*A*S*H, Klinger

I'm an AFICIANADO...... bitches! And I want you all to start calling me Don Philippe!

Makes a cross in the air. In nomine Patri. Et Fili. Spiritus Sancti. You are now an aficianado my son.

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My toys 2006 650r Ninja, 2008 chevy cobalt w/ 2 Memphis 10" m3 in a ported box, pr1000 watt amp, pr4-50 watt, m3 speakers around, and 6" pioneer double din.

If i win the lottery, I'll buy a nice, expensive watch. Something that I'd be proud to pass onto my son, and him to his son and so on and so forth. Same goes for a lot of other things, like an expensive fly-fishing rod, crystal whisky decanter set, misc. jewelry, classic cars or aircraft, etc etc.

If i win the lottery... *sigh*

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"Truly great madness cannot be achieved without significant intelligence." - Henrik Tikkanen

bacon.jay:

If i win the lottery, I'll buy a nice, expensive watch. Something that I'd be proud to pass onto my son, and him to his son and so on and so forth. Same goes for a lot of other things, like an expensive fly-fishing rod, crystal whisky decanter set, misc. jewelry, classic cars or aircraft, etc etc.

If i win the lottery... *sigh*

Brother, I hope you win and get to make your dreams come true. I could see buying a nice watch to pass onto generations in the family. That is a cool idea. In all honesty if I won the lottery I would pretty much keep my current lifestyle and try to bless as many people as I could. Not saying I wouldn't spend some money but I wouldn't buy a Ferrari or million dollar house as all I am saying. I have taken note of what you want so if I win I will hook you up bro!

IMO the term afficianado,(did i spell that right?), refers to your level of interest in whatever it is. Could be cars, cigars, boats ect. And if you're on this forum talking about cigars then your interest level has to be high thus making us all cigar aficianado's! Congrats to everyone!!! Now as far as the CA magazine goes, I like it. I enjoy looking at the nice watches/cars/electronics and all the other neat things they have in there. Mix in some cigar talk and reviews and i'm good to go every month. I'm a watch guy though so i'll look at anything with nice watches in it. Last month I picked up a copy of Smoke(pretty sure that's the name of it) at my B&M and it was a great magazine. I liked it just as much as CA but for completely different reasons. Seemed a little more "down to earth". Good magazine imo.

Why so much abuse on the G shock?? :) It's a great watch! I'm new to cigars, and I have lot to learn before I consider myself an afficianado. I will heartily enjoy the trip to enlightenment though! About spending 10K on a watch..not for me. But then again, I shoot a ten thousand dollar rifle for fun, so maybe I'm the nut!