phobicsquirrel:

PuroFreak:

Smokeee:

cabinetmaker:

Obama finally addresses the massacre at Ft. Hood after babbling on for 2 minutes thanking everyone for putting on the event; and offering a "shout out" with a wry grin. What a wonderful human being we have for a president. Go to hell, Mr. Obama.

Reminds me of GWB after hurrican Katrina!

LMFAO Thats funny sh*t right there... Compare a hurricane that EVERYONE knew for a week was coming to a shooting that NOBODY could have predicted. I personally don't have a problem with what Obama said, but to compare this to Katrina is insane. If I had 3 days notice that a hurricane was coming, I coulda walked my happy a$$ outta New Orleans. The people who were trapped there were stupid. Plain and simple.

Really shows your humanity there puro. People were stupid because they didn't leave, possibly but I don't know all their reasons for staying. Probably because they didn't want to leave their home. Maybe if the levy's were in good shape this horrible act wouldn't have happened. Maybe a lot of them thought of that? I dunno.

all puro was saying is that these two are not similar at all. thats it. geeez.

edit... i missed a line in there... some couldnt leave. some chose to stay. those who chose were dumb. those who couldnt... well that just plain sucks.

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kuzi16:

phobicsquirrel:

PuroFreak:

Smokeee:

cabinetmaker:

Obama finally addresses the massacre at Ft. Hood after babbling on for 2 minutes thanking everyone for putting on the event; and offering a "shout out" with a wry grin. What a wonderful human being we have for a president. Go to hell, Mr. Obama.

Reminds me of GWB after hurrican Katrina!

LMFAO Thats funny sh*t right there... Compare a hurricane that EVERYONE knew for a week was coming to a shooting that NOBODY could have predicted. I personally don't have a problem with what Obama said, but to compare this to Katrina is insane. If I had 3 days notice that a hurricane was coming, I coulda walked my happy a$$ outta New Orleans. The people who were trapped there were stupid. Plain and simple.

Really shows your humanity there puro. People were stupid because they didn't leave, possibly but I don't know all their reasons for staying. Probably because they didn't want to leave their home. Maybe if the levy's were in good shape this horrible act wouldn't have happened. Maybe a lot of them thought of that? I dunno.

all puro was saying is that these two are not similar at all. thats it. geeez.

I was not comparing the actual incidents- but rather the similarities in which the president responded… or lack there of!

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phobicsquirrel:

PuroFreak:

Smokeee:

cabinetmaker:

Obama finally addresses the massacre at Ft. Hood after babbling on for 2 minutes thanking everyone for putting on the event; and offering a "shout out" with a wry grin. What a wonderful human being we have for a president. Go to hell, Mr. Obama.

Reminds me of GWB after hurrican Katrina!

LMFAO Thats funny sh*t right there... Compare a hurricane that EVERYONE knew for a week was coming to a shooting that NOBODY could have predicted. I personally don't have a problem with what Obama said, but to compare this to Katrina is insane. If I had 3 days notice that a hurricane was coming, I coulda walked my happy a$$ outta New Orleans. The people who were trapped there were stupid. Plain and simple.

Really shows your humanity there puro. People were stupid because they didn't leave, possibly but I don't know all their reasons for staying. Probably because they didn't want to leave their home. Maybe if the levy's were in good shape this horrible act wouldn't have happened. Maybe a lot of them thought of that? I dunno.

MOST of the people there could have left. When there is a hurricane coming and you are in a city that is lower than sea level... That is a bad combination. I know there were some people who we physically unable to leave, that is different, but to stay there and face it because you didn't want to leave... That was just stupid.

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Smokeee:

kuzi16:

phobicsquirrel:

PuroFreak:

Smokeee:

cabinetmaker:

Obama finally addresses the massacre at Ft. Hood after babbling on for 2 minutes thanking everyone for putting on the event; and offering a "shout out" with a wry grin. What a wonderful human being we have for a president. Go to hell, Mr. Obama.

Reminds me of GWB after hurrican Katrina!

LMFAO Thats funny sh*t right there... Compare a hurricane that EVERYONE knew for a week was coming to a shooting that NOBODY could have predicted. I personally don't have a problem with what Obama said, but to compare this to Katrina is insane. If I had 3 days notice that a hurricane was coming, I coulda walked my happy a$$ outta New Orleans. The people who were trapped there were stupid. Plain and simple.

Really shows your humanity there puro. People were stupid because they didn't leave, possibly but I don't know all their reasons for staying. Probably because they didn't want to leave their home. Maybe if the levy's were in good shape this horrible act wouldn't have happened. Maybe a lot of them thought of that? I dunno.

all puro was saying is that these two are not similar at all. thats it. geeez.

I was not comparing the actual incidents- but rather the similarities in which the president responded… or lack there of!

i got ya. i kind of agree, too. obama did faux pas (sp?) there. his speech should have been started something like this: "i know we are all here for this conference, however, there are more pressing matters at hand... "
then he could have said what he wanted to say and most would have never thought twice about it.
bush did the same thing on many occasions. good ol' foot-in-mouth disease.

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one more thought ...

kuzi16:

governments do NOT create wealth. people create wealth and the government imposes taxes on those people.

since the only cure to poverty is wealth, and the government does not create wealth, the government cannot cure poverty. People cure poverty.

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Why dont any of you have the balls to say that Ft. Hood is worse because it was good men serving this country, prominently white and killed by a Muslim. Katrina was bad...but mainly because of all the money wasted after to help the same dumb, lazy, nig*ers who dont contribute anything to society but welfare checks. And to say none of you were basically on that line of thought I call you liars. Thats the difference in the two, lets not mince words when it comes to conservative response to the poor, minorities, and underclasses- -----Gays too, but Ill save Sen. Craig and my fine Gov. Crist for another debate on hypocritical people lacking in moral fortitude.

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Vulchor:

Why dont any of you have the balls to say that Ft. Hood is worse because it was good men serving this country, prominently white and killed by a Muslim. Katrina was bad...but mainly because of all the money wasted after to help the same dumb, lazy, nig*ers who dont contribute anything to society but welfare checks. And to say none of you were basically on that line of thought I call you liars. Thats the difference in the two, lets not mince words when it comes to conservative response to the poor, minorities, and underclasses- -----Gays too, but Ill save Sen. Craig and my fine Gov. Crist for another debate on hypocritical people lacking in moral fortitude.

wow... do you honestly think all conservatives are racist?


if so, that is a bold claim
and also an untrue one.
not understanding the conservative point of view is one thing. but making a statement that twists what you dont understand into something evil...well thats just plain stupid.
one should never make claim that you know what is in men's hearts. nor should the put words in other people's mouths.
i always do my best on these threads to not make it personal, or to call names without backing up claims but i cannot hold my tongue on this. that is the stupidest, most hate mongering thing, i have heard in a while.
....and im not even a conservative.
but it is offensive to me, because i was not thinking that. both situations were bad, but for very different reasons. the ONLY comparison that a person can make is that the presidents both made some faux pas. that is all.



...I cant even believe that i have to defend one BOTL from another BOTL on charges of racism...

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I have pretty much at the age of 50 attained the BALLS to say anything I damn well please ( just ask my co-workers) what is anyone gonna do , I'm too big to eat!!! Interesting how both sides of this debate claim tolerance but this thread has declined to name calling and finger pointing and folks being labeled liars by people who profess to "know" what others meant or are thinking ( wow this sound so ...so ...so ...democratic from what I'm reading and seeing)( maybe you could get a govt job ferreting out terrorist suspects at airports since you seem to be so intuitive). If that had been my train of thought I would have said so ...I've never ducked defending my views and won't start now but you feel free to believe whatever makes you feel better Vulchor.

Didnt say you GMill or Kuzi (or anyone else Im sure, cause all conservatives love everyone, non-whites even more....please Kuzi, insert your Al Sharpton or Farakahn comment here)----but to say that what I spouted off wasnt true for a good number of people here and conversatives around the country is the same kind of turn your head while the $hit hits the fan and ignore the truth attitude that has turned a strong Republican party into a breeding ground of hate, intolerance, and backward thinkers....and of course the religious whackos which pull the strings of those same closeminded homophobes we're speaking of. But cheers to all of you who dont feel this was...Im sure you all "have a ton of black friends, I love black people" as Eddie Murphy would've said about whities afraid to say what they really feel.

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Vulchor:

Didnt say you GMill or Kuzi----but to say that what I spouted off wasnt true for a good number of people here and conversatives around the country is the same kind of turn your head while the $hit hits the fan and ignore the truth attitude that has turned a strong Republican party into a breeding ground of hate, intolerance, and backward thinkers....and of course the religious whackos which pull the strings of those same closeminded homophobes we're speaking of. But cheers to all of you who dont feel this was...Im sure you all "have a ton of black friends, I love black people" as Eddie Murphy would've said about whities afraid to say what they really feel.

Obama has a Fascist mindset. Ignore that truth.

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I think the last administration shipped keeping truth around overseas along with a lot of other stuff-----but what the hell, lets get the guy out of there-----Im ready to start the Mitt Romney for President fan club...hey maybe even Sarah....she has a helluva a story dontchaknow, real bright....Lol, the s*it is so thick in here its like working in a fudge factory.

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kuzi16:

Vulchor:

Didnt say you GMill or Kuzi----but to say that what I spouted off wasnt true for a good number of people here and conversatives around the country is the same kind of turn your head while the $hit hits the fan and ignore the truth attitude that has turned a strong Republican party into a breeding ground of hate, intolerance, and backward thinkers....and of course the religious whackos which pull the strings of those same closeminded homophobes we're speaking of. But cheers to all of you who dont feel this was...Im sure you all "have a ton of black friends, I love black people" as Eddie Murphy would've said about whities afraid to say what they really feel.

Obama has a Fascist mindset. Ignore that truth.

What no link, with (slanted) factual evidence???

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Vulchor:

I think the last administration shipped keeping truth around overseas along with a lot of other stuff

yes, but at this moment we are not talking about the LAST administration. we are talking about this one.
and this one, like the last one is Fascist in nature... meaning that they want private ownership, but they want to control and regulate everything.

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Vulchor:

kuzi16:

Vulchor:

Didnt say you GMill or Kuzi----but to say that what I spouted off wasnt true for a good number of people here and conversatives around the country is the same kind of turn your head while the $hit hits the fan and ignore the truth attitude that has turned a strong Republican party into a breeding ground of hate, intolerance, and backward thinkers....and of course the religious whackos which pull the strings of those same closeminded homophobes we're speaking of. But cheers to all of you who dont feel this was...Im sure you all "have a ton of black friends, I love black people" as Eddie Murphy would've said about whities afraid to say what they really feel.

Obama has a Fascist mindset. Ignore that truth.

What no link, with (slanted) factual evidence???

are you fucking serious? how about you back up a SINGLE thing you say. EVER. and what part of regulating everything is not fascist? please tell me that. quit turning your head and ignoring that truth.

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I forgot---thats the past, cant talk about it. How convienent, especially for the folks in Iraq.

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